Healing Race
Talking about race isn’t always easy. Andre and Todd were college freshman roommates - one black, one white - who spent the first 25 years of knowing each other without ever discussing the topic. So they decided to go deep on the role of race and the state of race relations in the U.S... and to record their conversations so that others could see what a first conversation about race might look like, where no topic is off the table and no views are stifled or censored, but where they always listen, respect, and seek to understand - even and especially when they see things differently. And they are now welcoming guests on to experience that same kind of radical openness, honesty, and empathy. Healing Race is about having the real-deal, don’t-filter-what-you-think conversation about race, and they would love for you to join.
Episodes

Thursday Aug 24, 2023
Thursday Aug 24, 2023
Andre and Todd discuss whether the motivations that fuel racial discrimination and inequality have decreased over the years or whether they have simply laid dormant ready to reemerge when times get tough.
We also discuss how much these racial prejudices get spoken in white circles and whether there is a link between racial prejudices and the policies that Americans support. So let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Tuesday Aug 29, 2023
Tuesday Aug 29, 2023
Andre and Todd ask… what motivates people to support policies that perpetuate racial inequities? Is it self interest? Ideology? Racial bias? White supremacy?
As part of that conversation, Andre shares how he himself reacted to a property tax bill, that would dramatically lower his taxes, but would take away from public schools that support opportunity for many local Black children. Let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Thursday Aug 31, 2023
Thursday Aug 31, 2023
In the last episode, we discussed how some Americans view black Americans as having a victim mentality when they push for racial equity. In this episode, Todd asks Andre what he would instead like white people to know about the black community that he feels is not generally acknowledged by them.
What do some white people miss about us in the black community because of the stereotypes expressed in how we’ve been painted over history, and how have these biases affected me and other members of the black community? Let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
Andre shares with Todd the ways he's seen black people portrayed by leaders and in the media and the messages it sends about black people. Andre and Todd also discuss how black and white behaviors and views can be misinterpreted and misunderstood and the challenges that can create for racial relationships. So let’s get to that conversation. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Thursday Sep 07, 2023
Thursday Sep 07, 2023
Andre and Todd discuss whether or not there should be a push for black people to have more equal representation in media and positions of power and we react to some of the critiques of that push. Should we strive to include people with a wide range of experiences and perspectives in our media and leadership? And does doing so in any way conflict with being fair and impartial? Let’s get to that conversation. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Tuesday Sep 12, 2023
Tuesday Sep 12, 2023
In this episode, Todd shares with Andre his epiphany about one of the ways that Andre's mistrust of white people has played into their own relationship and their working together on this Healing Race project, and Todd connects that epiphany with his grandfather’s story and the way his grandfather experienced mistrust as a Jewish Holocaust survivor.
In his grandfather’s story, Andre sees a parallel to the caution that he brings to white relationships, and Todd and Andre have a particularly touching moment as they discuss the way Todd's grandfather dealt with his mistrust at the end of his life. So let’s get to the conversation. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Tuesday Oct 10, 2023
Tuesday Oct 10, 2023
Andre and Todd reflect on the personally profound conversation they had in the previous episode. Andre shares what led him to resonate so emotionally with Todd’s grandfather’s story, and how his grandfather’s experience very much spoke to how the black community has had to navigate being black in America throughout our history here. Andre also asks how Todd would approach conversations with people who simply deny someone’s stories of prejudice, discrimination, or hate and they discuss what it takes to not take things personally or get defensive when having difficult conversations about race. So let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Tuesday Oct 17, 2023
Tuesday Oct 17, 2023
Andre and Todd ask themselves, “What is the White responsibility in overcoming racial conflict, prejudice, and inequities, what is the black responsibility, and who has the responsibility to lead that process? Todd asks Andre what led him to lower the walls that typically guard his heart in conversations with white people during their Healing Race conversation... even amid the caution that he usually brings to white relationships. Todd also asks Andre about the kindnesses he’s been shown by white people and the impact they have had on how he interacts with the white community. So let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Tuesday Oct 24, 2023
Tuesday Oct 24, 2023
Andre shares how he expects his life success and his lighter “black” skin to lead viewers to doubt whether he has ever had to face racial bias in his life, and Todd asks him how he feels that some in the black community will attribute his success more to his lighter skin than his individual initiative.
That leads Andre and Todd to discuss the roles that skin color and personal responsibility play in Americans’ success, and which of these factors deserve more attention in our society today. So let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Tuesday Nov 07, 2023
Tuesday Nov 07, 2023
Todd and Andre tackle what has come to be known as “cancel culture,” discussing what they like and what they don’t like about how we talk about and treat each other in this “cancel culture” world. They also discuss the backlash that can occur when people feel that their speech and behavior are unfairly stifled.
What is the line between canceling someone and criticizing them for behaviors that are taken as offensive? How do we distinguish what is ignorance and what is harmful intent when it comes to those offensive behaviors? And when do punishments go too far in responding to such behaviors? Let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com