Healing Race
Talking about race isn’t always easy. Andre and Todd were college freshman roommates - one black, one white - who spent the first 25 years of knowing each other without ever discussing the topic. So they decided to go deep on the role of race and the state of race relations in the U.S... and to record their conversations so that others could see what a first conversation about race might look like, where no topic is off the table and no views are stifled or censored, but where they always listen, respect, and seek to understand - even and especially when they see things differently. And they are now welcoming guests on to experience that same kind of radical openness, honesty, and empathy. Healing Race is about having the real-deal, don’t-filter-what-you-think conversation about race, and they would love for you to join.
Episodes

Tuesday Aug 08, 2023
Tuesday Aug 08, 2023
In this episode, Todd and Andre discuss the challenges that Black Americans face as they aspire to create the careers and relationships they desire, and how those challenges impact the kind of Black person they can be.
In a world where career success depends on the social relationships you develop with people who have influence and networks of opportunity, what pressures exist for members of the Black community to adapt the way they present themselves to the world? Let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
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Tuesday Aug 08, 2023
Tuesday Aug 08, 2023
In this episode, Andre and Todd discuss the question, “How much do different cultural ways of living based on race create barriers between Black and white Americans and matter in our world today?
Do all people have to learn to follow society’s norms in similar ways, or are Black people affected in a unique, particular way? What role do stereotypes about Black people and Black culture play in our need to adapt to those norms? Let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Tuesday Aug 08, 2023
Tuesday Aug 08, 2023
In this episode, Todd asks Andre if he would ideally like to live in a world where we don’t identify ourselves with the color of our skin. Should we want to live in a world where the groups we identify with are not based on our color, and what are the challenges in getting there?
As part of responding to Todd’s question, Andre shares why he think it’s important and what motivates many members of the black community to identify with the Black identity. So let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Tuesday Aug 08, 2023
Tuesday Aug 08, 2023
In this episode, Todd and Andre discuss whether a kind of psychology of ownership - where white people feel a right to black lives and what they produce - has endured from the time when black people were the property of white people… and if it has, how prevalent is it currently?
How can we actually tell if a white person harbors this kind of psychology of ownership, or if behaviors that might look like racial prejudice - or even racial superiority - come from other motivations?
The conversation you’re about to hear arose from Andre and Todd discussing whether the killing of George Floyd would lead to an enduring movement or would only be a moment. Is there psychological resistance to letting these moments become movements? Let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Thursday Aug 10, 2023
Thursday Aug 10, 2023
Andre and Todd discuss whether there is a pervasive need, a shared psychology, among White Americans for Black Americans to stay in “their place” and occupy lesser roles in society.
With whites having controlled power throughout the course of U.S. history, have they made, and do they continue to make, deliberate choices to sustain racial inequities? Are white reactions to Black Americans defying black stereotypes a sign that they resist black advancement or just a product of what they’ve been socialized to expect of black people? Let’s get to that conversation. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Thursday Aug 10, 2023
Thursday Aug 10, 2023
Andre and Todd ask… Does the perpetuation of racial inequities reflect an attempt among a large number of white Americans to deliberately shut out Black Americans from equal opportunity, or is it more a product of white Americans passively being advantaged from historical injustices?
Or is it neither - are there no systemic issues, past or present, that continue to play a role in today’s racial inequities? Let’s get to that conversation. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Tuesday Aug 15, 2023
Tuesday Aug 15, 2023
Todd and Andre discuss the role that racial biases, made by everyday Americans, can play in the differences in opportunity and support that white and black Americans experience across their lifetimes. Do white Americans have a moral responsibility to work against the ways that society benefits them, on average, relative to black Americans?
And does not doing so reflect an inner belief among whites that they deserve those benefits more than blacks… or perhaps at least make them “active” supporters of racial inequities? Let’s get to that conversation. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Thursday Aug 17, 2023
Thursday Aug 17, 2023
Todd and Andre discuss the White Lives Matter phenomenon. What makes some people feel the need to state that White Lives Matter? And what motivates some prominent Black Americans to promote White Lives Matter?
Andre and Todd also discuss the upsides and downsides of taking a more universal approach - not based on racial identity - to solving social issues… and whether focusing on race can increase racial conflict. So let’s get to that conversation. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com

Thursday Aug 17, 2023
Thursday Aug 17, 2023
Andre and Todd continue discussing White Lives Matter. Does the Black Lives Matter movement create an environment that has white people feeling like their lives - or perhaps their views - don’t matter? In focusing on Black Lives does Black Lives Matter run counter to the goal that everyone has a right to a thriving life… or is it a necessary step to that goal?
And how would people’s views on these questions change if they spent more time in each other’s shoes? Todd and Andre talk about racial experiences, racial trust, and more. Let’s get to that conversation. Enjoy…

Tuesday Aug 22, 2023
Tuesday Aug 22, 2023
In previous episodes, Todd and Andre shed light on their different upbringings and the role that race played in those upbringings.
In this episode, Andre asks Todd when he first became aware of systemic bias against members of the black community, and Todd shares the first time he heard someone in his social network express support for discriminatory practices as well as the first time he saw firsthand how people from different races and ethnicities can experience very different living conditions in their neighborhoods.
They also discuss whether a desire for psychological safety makes white Americans not want to think about or engage on issues of race and the risks more generally of not discussing and dealing with issues that we simply can’t avoid. So let’s get to that conversation now. Enjoy…
To be a guest on Healing Race, email us at guests@HealingRaceShow.com
To suggest a topic for Healing Race, email us at topics@HealingRaceShow.com